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66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/28/08
11:03 AM

Hello all,
     newbie here, with a very strange prob????

just got a 66 mustang( no title ) went to a title service , sent the numbers to them, they came back with the reply, no such number??????
tag is clear and easy to read BUT  there is a 3 where the manufacture plant should be a letter not a number
AND there is a 5 where the engine letter should be.

PLEASE help if you have any helpfull ideas.
thanks for your time and help.  

 
pkbkfcw pkbkfcw
User | Posts: 208 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/28/08
02:33 PM

What does the stamping on the inner front fender, drivers side, say?  This is the "official" and legal VIN because the door tag and inner fender tag are easily replaced.  The fender stamping, inner fender tag and door tag should match but, after all these years, who knows who has done what to a 42 year old car?  Your VIN might be a salvage VIN assigned by the state.  

 
MrMike MrMike
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/28/08
06:04 PM

Another newbie here with a VIN problem (?). Just bought a 65 coupe that is registered as 65.  The body and everything else looks like a 65, but the VIN starts with the number 6.  The first digit is supposed to indicate year, is that correct???  

 
pkbkfcw pkbkfcw
User | Posts: 208 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/29/08
05:11 AM

Yes, the first digit is the year.  People make mistakes, though.  One of my 66s VIN started with a G on the title until the state's computers caught it three years later.  

 
MrMike MrMike
New User | Posts: 4 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
06:10 PM

pkbkfcw

Thanks for the response.  The vin with the "6" is the one stamped into the metal under the left front fender, showing through the cutout.  I have to assume the vehicle was made in 1966.  But the body is a 65 and so it states on the registration.  All the other digits in the vin are as they are supposed to be, that is they match what is on the car.

Guess the best thing to do is not worry about it, go ahead with our planned rebuild/customizing, and enjoy what we have.  

We are new to this but it sure seems like fun...
Might not say that in a year or so when we sink some money into Mom's ride...  

 
66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
10:17 PM

pkbkfcw,

THANX SO MUCH for the advice on the "official" vin location.
  It varified what the car was and where it came from!
now I can get a title!
BUT I still have a delima?? ??  the "official" vin is identical to the plate on the door (but)with the same exceptions I mentioned before.

        my vin is : 6 F 07 T #SAME#

    my door plate : 6 3 07 5 #SAME#

Does anyone know what OR why  the 3 and the 5 are there?  Where/How do I go look up this info?
another guy told me that this car might have been "built" for someone special or very important?
Thanks for the help so far, thanx for any to come!  

 
66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
10:37 PM

Hello again to all is trying to keep up with this thread.
NEW UPDATE:

where the 5 is in place of the T, I found out what it means....
5 = Engine 6 Cyl. 240 CID
   Type: Export only
   Horsepower: Approx. 150
   Carbs: single 2V
   Compression: 9 to 1 with wedge head design
   Block: Thin wall cyl.,light weight engine(400lbs)
   Induction: Dual inlet, heated breather
NOW I am just working on what the big 3 means.
Thanks for all of those who are looking !!!!  

 
pkbkfcw pkbkfcw
User | Posts: 208 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 09/30/08
03:56 AM

It could be that the data plate on the door has been changed and somebody didn't stamp it correctly.  (You can buy blank data plates, stamp them and rivet them to the door.)  

 
66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/30/08
10:51 AM

pkbkfcw,
    Thanks again for your time and input.

I am pretty sure the plate is original, rivits also look original and no oddities???

I am wondering though..... if someone accidently stamped a 3 instead of a E.
I found out there were some E's.
a special build plant in NJ. That would coincide,
with the fact it has a number 5 where a letter T should be.
5 indicates a special built car with a High Performance 240 CID I6 engine, built for export only.
STILL checking on this thanks for evryones help,
all-ready, and yet to come.  

 
Donzie Donzie
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/03/08
11:06 AM

I'm currently looking at a '66 GT (alleged), the vin # is 6t09a132299. No idea how to go about searching the number. Can anyone give me some ballpark idea's on the number itself, or where to search. The car is currently in Ontario.

Thanks.  

 
jlg2002 jlg2002
Guru | Posts: 863 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 10/03/08
12:13 PM

The Vin shows it a a 66 A code (289 4v)mustang 2 door fastback with std bucket interior & unit 132299. it was made in Metuchen. You need the door trag in order to get any other information about the car.
If you google for one, you will find a decoder.  

 
66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 10/03/08
05:19 PM

jlg2002 is correct in decoding your vin, the only thing he left out if your interested, is where it was built.
The A indicates it was NOT made in Detroit, but was special construction in NJ. decoded as below:

Model Year: 1966  
Assembly Plant: Metuchen, NJ
Body Style: Fastback
Engine Code: 289 4V
Consecutive Unit Number: XXXXXX

Has anyone found out what a 3 means. if it is any help,
the 3 is almost twice the size of all the other numbers.

LIKE THIS:
          6 "big 3" 07  5  XXXXXX
it is the only vin I have ever seen that is all #'s
remember as stated above the 3 is where built
the 5 is what engine. the 3 thingy is driving me crazy
.....and thats not a long journey!!!!!

any help will be greatly accepted and appreciated
thanks.  

 
djhamma djhamma
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/13/08
06:11 AM

66devostang, I'm afraid you may be overanalyzing this...

As stated previously, the fender stampings are the official ones. The "Not for title or registration purposes" door tag VIN is clearly a misstamp, and even IF original, should simply be considered an interesting footnote.

Even if the door tag VIN were correct, it seems highly unlikely that the fender VIN-stamping employee would suddenly have forgotten BOTH where he worked AND what engine (A low-compression 240 *** I-6? Uh... WHY??) the car was supposed to be receiving.  

 
66devostang 66devostang
New User | Posts: 7 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 10/13/08
07:55 PM

I am sorry if I sounded like I was overanalyzing the whole question of vins.
 I have gotten the official vin #'s and have all-ready received the title.
 I knew very little about mustangs 2 months ago, and have done research, again and again. I am possitive it has the original door plate, and have talked with the President of the Illinois Mustang club, and even he didn't know anything about the big 3 for the build location, and knew little of the export engine codes.
HENCE I was trying to find someone who "knew for sure" if the big #3 was indeed a "mistake" or if it was a "special build location" for someone "special" like the owner of FORD motor company or maybe a movie star???
Maybe a race car driver #3 ( highly unlikely )
It don't mean much to most people, but I would like to know ( as you stated ) why someone would stamp the door differently than the vin?
and it is NOT an easy mistake, it is not just a number that was accidently stamped, it was a number "2 times bigger than all the other numbers" SO ..... that means the guy who "accidently" stamped this number, ACCIDENTLY left his work place, drove up town, bought a bigger number stamp ,drove back to work, clocked back in and stamped the " big #3 he bought " in place of his location of build, didn't catch his mistake, and rivited the plate to the door? then I wonder if he returned the BIG number set he purchased, because he found out that he NEVER needed to use it anymore?
HENCE this is the only one?  does this make this car a 1 of a kind/ only 1 ever built?  does this mean this car I have $3,500.00 in, is worth uuuuuuu 5 million dollars?
Sorry to have rattled on,...... but I don't BUY the accident story, that big #3 means it was finished as a "special build" at a special build location, same as the stock 200 engine with a 1v carb, was swapped out for a 240 2v carb,INDICATED by the 5 in the engine code location.
 My theory is : custom ordered car NEW from DETROIT,
1966 mustang, ordered for someone very IMPORTANT, and was built to be shipped overseas.
MY question.... where was it built?/ Detroit YES, but where was it finished? where was it altered for export?
I may never know... but am still looking.......  

 
SENTINEL64 SENTINEL64
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 10/08
Posted: 10/14/08
05:23 AM

Try this web site, it should help. http://www.mustangdecoder.com/cgi-bin/decoder.pl
My '67 was titled wrong in Florida when it was purchased and stayed that way until I purchased it from the original owner a couple of years ago. It was mistakenly titled as a '66 when new, eventhough it is a '67 and the first number is a 7. I had to prove it to the Maryland DMV using this web site showing it was a '67. It was titled wrong for almost 4 decades and the original owner just never bothered to have it fixed. He knew because he told me about it. Good luck  
Sentinel64

 
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